Saturday, June 09, 2007

Words of Wisdom From Alexander Hamilton:

These are the words that Hamilton had when recommending a military chaplain:

“He is just what I should like for a military parson except that he does not whore or drink,...”

-- July 6, 1780 letter to General Anthony Wayne.


Hamilton, as you could probably tell, was not an orthodox Christian during the time he helped "found" the nation. Rather, like the other key Founders, he was a theistic rationalist. He didn't become an orthodox Christian until after 1801 after his son died in a duel.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

check the source.

TO GENERAL ANTHONY WAYNE
July 6, 1780.

DEAR GENERAL:

Doctor W. Mendy is one of those characters that for its honesty, simplicity, and helplessness interests my humanity. He is exceedingly anxious to be in the service, and, I believe, has been forced out of it not altogether by fair play. He is just what I should like for a military parson, except that he does not drink. He will fight, and he will not insist upon your going to heaven whether you will or not. He tells me there is a vacancy in your brigade. I should be really happy if, through your influence, he can fill it. Pray take care of the good old man.1

Footnotes for Part II, Chapter LXII
1. Now first printed from the original in the Wayne MSS. I owe this letter to the kindness of the Hon. George Bancroft.


http://oll.libertyfund.org/Home3/HTML.php?recordID=0249.09#LF-BK0249-9pt02ch62_ftnref1

Jonathan said...

James,

I got that quotation from Ron Chernow's 832 page book on Hamilton, considered the "Magnum Opus" of Hamilton biographies.

And he probably got it from Douglas Adair's work. I'll check and see if there are other primary sources that vet Chernow's or Adair's.

Jonathan said...

I've already found a primary source which words it the way I originally did with "whore" included.

Anonymous said...

One quote is right and the other is wrong. I posted on pos liberty, and refuted your current post. That guy Jason incorrectly quoted me,(God's law, not mine) maybe he has an agenda with the bible.

Regards.

Jonathan said...

I'd imagine the quotation with the "whore" is correct as the one without it (that was first reproduced in 1904) probably deleted that word trying to "preserve" Hamilton's image.

We have plenty of Bible believing conservative Christians who post at Positive Liberty. But you happen to be the first one officially banned from our site. I wonder why? (Hint: It's not what you believe, but how you conducted yourself there.)

"refuted your current post"

It might be a good thing for you that Jason deletes all your posts as it saves you embarrassment.

Anonymous said...

I'd imagine the quotation with the "whore" is correct as the one without it (that was first reproduced in 1904) probably deleted that word trying to "preserve" Hamilton's image.>>

Without finding the truth, the quote means nothing.

We have plenty of Bible believing conservative Christians who post at Positive Liberty.>>

In never saw one.

(Hint: It's not what you believe, but how you conducted yourself there.)>.

It was actually more prejudice, because God made the comment not me. So both of your problems are with God. I never personally attacked anyone, and both of you know it.

It might be a good thing for you that Jason deletes all your posts as it saves you embarrassment.>>

Do a poll, Calvin, Hooker, Locke, Luther, Blackstone and the founding fathers affirm my point of view, and are against yours. Locke was not a unitarian, just read His second letter on Christianity. Your position is easily proven inacurate. Check out the doctors and philosophers
http://www.luminarium.org/renlit/hookbib.htm

beliefs on natural law. Not only did you not refute any of my posts, but your own conscience tells you your were wrong about Madison, you should apologize.

Regards

Jonathan said...

James,

I repeat my earlier remarks: It's a good thing for you that you are posting here and not on Positive Liberty as fewer people will watch you embarrass yourself.

On Madison, the evidence overwhelmingly supports my position, and the experts in the academy, including the conservative anti-secularist, James H. Hutson, support my position not yours.

Morever, you were blatantly dishonest in the way you made up a fact about Dr. Balmaine being his "best friend." And his testimony of Madison's orthodoxy, as reported by Bishop Meade ONLY applied to Madison's life, right after returning from college.

Notice the part where Bishop Meade stated "his religious feeling, however, seems to have been short-lived." Right after returning home from college and during ALL of the time Madison spent founding the nation, he believed in Bishop Meade referred to as "infidel principles." Notice Bishop Meade's testimony that the only time he was ever at Madison's house Madison gave the impression that his creed was not "strictly regulated by the Bible."

Reading those two pages of Bishop Meade's book reveal my interpretation to be correct. If you disagree, you are either 1) being dishonest because of your idealogical blinders, or 2) need to take an elementary reading comprehension class.

Finally, simply google the words "Locke" with "Arian" and you will see that a consensus of scholars shows Locke to have been one.

Good day, James!

Our Founding Truth said...

I've already found a primary source which words it the way I originally did with "whore" included.>>

Let's see it. All the manuscripts in colleges from Henry Cabot Lodge doesn't have it.